Deep dive to New Ogham Podcast

[jarik]

And on Monday I was planning to spend some time to do special episode, from all the data we have from BB2 and BB3 matches. So stay tuned

[Segosa]

Thank you Jarik, and all the best in 2025.

[Felryan]

Great work Jarik, thank you ! The problem is with the blood bowl 3 api if i understand correclty, that doesn't return data ?

[jarik]

Great work Jarik, thank you ! The problem is with the blood bowl 3 api if i understand correclty, that doesn't return data ?

There are differences between data for bb2 and bb3, for example bb3 doesn't have hall of fame data at all. Basically problem is that data models are not well defined and on surface they are same between endpoints but actually they are not. I almost started to define proper datamodels, let's see if I do a new bot then I probably do some higher level data mapping too. And probably publish it too

I got pretty good 26 min episode talking about whole history from season 3 forward. Of course last 5 minutes are about how teams managed the transition from bb2 to bb3 and there the host go totally off the track, teams they talk have never played in bb3. I try to post that today, or tomorrow at latest

[jarik]

And here is the episode about full history of New Ogham, starting from season III so quite a few...

I think it was pretty nice discussion, and was also nice to remember the early seasons. But when hosts start to talk about transition from bb2 to bb3 they go totally to wrong direction, it gets that such change is very relevant but unfortunately after that it just starts talking about early bb2 seasons like they were bb3. I tried few times and even modified data structure and checked inputs are correct, and few times it did the exact same thing.

[Mythrell]

This is actually pretty cool stuff, had some good laughs and fond memories

[jarik]

Tested some new tricks this time and it worked pretty well As always no guarantees that any of the facts are correct but this time the focus is very clearly in the games of the previous round. Unfortunately hosts do not seem to fully grasp the concept of two games per round

So here is the round 5 recap

[jarik]

Working on new episode but have some issues. On last time I used the chat to ask AI some details on the data and then used those answers as input, and I think it worked nicely.

But this time whenever I ask something the answer is mostly flawed, like the was only 3 pairs, some played only 1 game and some games didn't have info about how many TDs other team made. So kind of basic info. Usually when ask are you sure it suddenly finds some more data...

So trying to do some data simplifications if it would be easier for the LLM. Hopefully get episode out in beginning of the week, or at latest after our little holiday so next weekend